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Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
38%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



eusebiovic 4:20 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
Where did this rumour actually originate from?

It smells like an urban myth to me but then all religions have their crazy elements...all the various offshoots of Christianity have some corking insanity promising glory too!

It's all bullshit, and it's bad for you

Dan M 12:55 Mon Sep 15
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gph 12:24 Mon Sep 15

That looks like the world's most unusual crossword clues.

Banjo 11:06 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
Suicide bombers expect some glorious eternal existence. Really, how easy is it to manipulate some stupid people?

During WW2 the Kamikaze pilots from Japan killed themselves for "The Glory of the Empire" Flying directly into enemy targets such as Naval vessels and land based armaments must have taken some guts to do.

Charging over the top during WW1 was often suicidal yet our forefathers and their enemy did this on a daily basis for a couple of years.

I am sure there are many examples of suicide warfare throughout history but let me tell you, these people must have been committed to their cause and that concept is very difficult to defend against.

Eddie B 10:51 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
I bet the blokes that wrote it, never thought that people would believe it a thousand years later. Such a load of obvious bollocks, as is all religion.

Spandex Sidney 10:43 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
Oh the basis your cock gets blown up with you, sounds like fucking hell having 72 gorgeous young tight ones around you with no knob?

JGW1 10:42 Mon Sep 15
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gph 12:24 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise

It does make me laugh that these guys are throwing themselves into eternal darkness based on some obviously peurile wank fantasy of some bloke who was the muslim equivalent of Jay out of the inbetweeners. I wonder if he was writing it with a snorkel mask on and a handfull of ham?

Hammer and Pickle 10:37 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
Most anti-sexism campaigners I've ever met are virgins and not by choice either.

Funny coincidence that.

Pub Bigot 9:05 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
Well said, Sven.

Why the fear?

Sven Roeder 8:33 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
I would suspect none of these stories have any basis in original teachings but are a bunch of men wanting to treat women like objects and to put their personal fantasies into 'law'.

Its all nonsense and should be treated as the nonsense it is. Why do we hear little from anti-sexism campaigners about this dangerous rubbish?
Dangerous in that it leads to paedophilia and FGM amongst other crimes.

balders 8:12 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
I might have some understanding for 72 bi-sexual slappers but virgins ?

No imagination when they wrote this part of the made up story

Saul Bollox 5:37 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
Walking round with a stiffy for eternity?

You couldn't make it up

Oh wait a minute, they did make it up.

Mr Polite 5:29 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
I'm assuming they look up to their paedophile prophet Mohammed and the 72 are virgins due to them being 9 years old

The Joker 2:22 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
For a faith that trues so hard to be so pious, they're just a bunch of dirty fucking perverts really. Fucking sad acts.

gph 1:00 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
Other extracts: 'Conversly, women will be provided with only one man, and they "will be satisfied with him".[4]'

'Orthodox Muslim theologians such as al-Ghazali (died 1111 CE) and al-Ash'ari (died 935 CE) have all discussed the sensual pleasures found in Paradise, relating hadith that describe Paradise as a slave market where there will be "no buy and sale, but... If any man will wish to have sexual intercourse with a woman, he will do at once."[6][7]'

'It is quoted by Ibn Kathir, in his Qur'anic Commentary, the Tafsir ibn Kathir,[8] and they are graphically described by Qur'anic commentator and polymath, al-Suyuti (died 1505), who, echoing a hasan hadith[9] from Ibn Majah,[10] wrote that the perpetual virgins will all "have appetizing vaginas", and that the "penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal".[11]'

Presumably, heavenly permanent erections don't lead to gangrene and amputation, unlike Earthly priaprism.

Gavros 12:49 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
If theyre 12 foot wide, imagine trying to get one off in 'em. Talk about a sausage in a mosque.

Stranded 12:44 Mon Sep 15
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They almost had me at 27.5 meter high transparent women who are eternally young and transparent to the marrow of their bones.

But then they went and blew it by writing something ridiculous like "Never dissatisfied"!

The Joker 12:25 Mon Sep 15
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I don't know about anyone else, but I'm nursing a lob-on after that.

gph 12:24 Mon Sep 15
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
According to wikiislam.net/wiki/72_Virgins, they will be enormous, 27.5 metres tall, and TRANSPARENT!

"There are several descriptions related to houri that are found in various Islamic references. Some include:

Physical Attributes:

Wide and beautiful/lovely eyes [15][16][17]
Like pearls [18]
Hairless except the eye brows and the head [19]


In addition to Quranic translations of 78:33 specifying the virgins will be voluptuous[20], Sahih International translates it as "full-breasted [companions] of equal age". Tafsir al-Jalalayn says "and buxom maidens (kawā‘ib is the plural of kā‘ib) of equal age (atrāb is the plural of tirb)". Several Islamic scholars explain that they will have "large, round breasts which are not inclined to hang".[21]

Beautiful [13]
White skinned [22]
60 cubits [27.5 meters] tall [23][22]
7 cubits [3.2 meters] in width [22]
Transparent to the marrow of their bones [21][13]
Eternally young [19]
Companions of equal age [20][24]
Sexual Attributes:

Untouched / with hymen unbroken by sexual intercourse [25][26]
Virgins [27]
Voluptuous/full-breasted [20]
With large, round breasts which are not inclined to hang [21][3]
Appetizing vaginas [11]
Personality Attributes:

Chaste [15]
Restraining their glances [15][25]
Modest gaze [28]
Other Attributes:

Splendid [29]
Pure [13]
Non-menstruating / non-urinating/ non-defecating and childfree [21][30]
Never dissatisfied [30]
Will sing praise [7]"

WHAM BAMM 11:28 Sun Sep 14
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Would it be too much to wish that the 72 virgins are all men that were previous martyrs. How fucked up would that be?

stomper 10:41 Sun Sep 14
Re: These 72 virgins in paradise
Mary is a mistranslation?

Iron Duke 10:39 Sun Sep 14
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There's only one way to find out. Knowledge comes with death's release, as Mr Bowie once sang. No point worrying about it or speculating really.

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